Elephant Ears

This blog is dedicated to the political happenings in the Valley and Southwest Virginia. As the the name implies, this blog will have posts based on what is heard by this elephant's (GOPer's) ears. It is also a great treat to get while at the county fair or a carnival.

Thursday, December 22, 2005

Virginia Democrats Vote Against Christmas

Newsmax is reporting that the House of Representatives passed a resolution today that "protects the symbols and traditions of Christmas". It passed 401-22, with all 22 no votes coming from democrats. Virginia's own Rep. Bobby Scott and Rep. Jim Moran were among the 22 voting against the resolution. Rep. Jo Ann Davis was the sponsor of the bill.
Its good to see some of the Virginia delegation has some decency and respect, and its sad to see that some of them do not.

18 Comments:

  • At 12/23/2005 6:24 PM, Blogger kilo said…

    Good post. I linked it on my blog.
    Merry Christmas!!!

     
  • At 12/24/2005 4:07 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Merry Christmas to you as well Kilo.
    Kep up the good work.

     
  • At 12/24/2005 9:21 PM, Anonymous saywhat?? said…

    Merry Christmas! Just came from a Christmas Eve service myself.

    But such things as this stupid House of Rep resolution are nothing but pandering. It's very, very sad that the federal government spent one second on this and also sad that GOPHokie thinks those who dare to vote againt it lack "decency and respect."

    GET REAL!!!!! Check out FEMA trailers sitting empty in Mississippi while people are still sleeping in their yards. Ask those good peopele if they'd rather have trailers being lived in or resolutions about Christmas. Our government has some screwed up priorities. I'm pretty sure Jesus is seeing all the posturing and wishing for more love and kind action.

     
  • At 12/24/2005 11:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    I have to agree. Anyone that takes phoney political stunts like this and draws deep meaning out of who voetd against them is really demeaning and infantilizing our political debates.

    Is there any discussion here of what the bill would have actually done, and why it should or should not have become law? No: just a bombastic claim that it's "you're either for or against Christmas." and that voting against it means you "hate Christmas." What does the bill actually do? Nothing: it's just another "me-too" in the "War on Christmas" inanity. People that think Christmas is yet another great ground for grandstanding and partisan nastiness spoil the season worse than anything else ever could. It's deeply sickening. For you to thoughtlessly celebrate it is highly disappointing.

     
  • At 12/25/2005 2:24 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Liberals hate Christmas...there you have it. Happy Kwanza...

     
  • At 12/25/2005 11:04 PM, Blogger spankthatdonkey said…

    Is hating George W. Bush a "family value" among Democrats????

    It would seem so.

     
  • At 12/26/2005 9:47 AM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    So I assume you dems think that only 22 members of congress saw through this "phoney political stunt" and voted against it.

     
  • At 12/27/2005 12:47 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    O.K. Hokie,
    What did it do? (This bill that protects Christmas that you love) Why don't you explain it? I can tell you this much. This isn't working like it used to. People aren't as dumb as you would hope. Most people are tired of this kind of nonsense and are beginning to see that you of the "GOP" for the empty sloganeers that you are.

     
  • At 12/27/2005 10:06 AM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    I'm just asking why 171 democrats voted with a bunch of Republicans for something that is useless.
    Seems kinda dumb to me.
    The democratic party should be using this bill as an attack on how much time the GOP wastes on stupid things like this.

     
  • At 12/27/2005 9:36 PM, Anonymous saywhat?? said…

    GOPHokie, I do not identify myself as a Dem, and I'm sure many on the Capitol Hill saw this resolution as the empty stunt is was. Not all of them are stupid. But only 22 had the guts to call a spade a spade. Sad and embarrassing.

    It's not a partisan issue. There's plenty of pandering in both parties. Both parties need to GOVERN and quit using buzz words and wedge issues.

    Seeing every issue through a partisan lense can be blinding. Remember how many blogging Republicans were ecstatic when Kilgore's death penalty ads came out? They honestly thought the average smart, non-partisan voter would be swayed by such nonsense. We all know differently. Maybe one day elected officials will act on what they know: People want substance and action, not empty resolutions.

     
  • At 12/28/2005 10:47 AM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Well what would you suggest the Congress do regarding this issue that has "substance and action"? Congress isn't the ones who have throw Christmas out of everything. Last time I checked, that was the supreme court.
    Congress was trying to send a message with this resolution: They stand by Christmas.

     
  • At 12/28/2005 5:46 PM, Anonymous saywhat?? said…

    GOPHokie,

    I suggest Congress stay out of it, but then you knew I'd say that. I stand by Christmas, too, but don't think it's an issue for Congress.

    I also don't much buy into the "war on Christmas." I believe the far right is trumping the so-called war to raise money and fear: two things the far right thrives on. Now that Clinton is out of office, it's always something else ... Terri Schiavo, the War on Christmas, gay marriage, blah, blah. O'Reilly & the others are playing us for fools. And in some cases they're on target: Those of us who ignore real issues of public policy to concentrate on the ones that will get people riled up are indeed fools.

    The war on Christmas is on your radar, I get that. It's not on mine or that of most non-right wingers. As I said earlier, we'd rather the government deal with hurricane relief, etc. GET REAL.

     
  • At 12/28/2005 11:23 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    And that is precisely why the democratic party is feared by many in America; because they think social issues have no place in politics.
    Contrary to your belief, most public policy problems have been fixed. There are certainly problems, but for the most part, things are very good in America.
    Also, it wouldn't be too hard to fix the social problems if people like you would support it as well.
    The main problem is that too many liberals want to prevent the government from interveneing in anything related to religion under the banner "freedom of religion".
    This struggle will always continue as long as the liberals make these things an issue.

     
  • At 12/29/2005 2:09 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "Remember how many blogging Republicans were ecstatic when Kilgore's death penalty ads came out?"

    To be fair, many of them were on the campaign PR payroll, and some of them even admitted it... after the fact of course!

    "The main problem is that too many liberals want to prevent the government from interveneing in anything related to religion under the banner "freedom of religion"."

    That's not a problem. The whole ponit of government staying out of the religion business is to allow private citizesn to have exclusive say over whom and how and when they'll worship. Shortsighted people seem to think, however, thathaving the government do this thinking for them is a nifty idea. Those people sure aren't friends fo religion, even though they fancy themselves that.

     
  • At 12/29/2005 2:34 AM, Blogger Rick Sincere said…

    As much as I hate to see Congress pass substantive laws, I hate to see them waste their time and my money on nonsense such as this. Cultural commentary is a blogger's function, not a congressman's.

     
  • At 12/29/2005 9:02 AM, Anonymous saywhat?? said…

    GOPHokie,

    Most public policy problems have been fixed? That is the funniest thing I've ever read on this blog.

    We have the war in Iraq. We have a mess in the Gulf states. We have a health care/insurance system that needs some kind reform. Even big business will admit that. Bush's failure aside, something needs to happen with social security. Our waters are polluted.

    And no matter how good things are in the US, that doesn't free Congress to pass do-nothing resolutions.

    You keep trying to make this kind of pandering nonsense a liberal/conservative issue. It's an issue of GOVERNANCE. You also keep acting like only liberals or only Democrats think the Christmas resolution is nonsense. Rick Sincere shows you differently.

    When you first started this blog, you were respectful to those who disagreed with you and seemed interested in hearing different perspectives. Now you sometimes just fall into the liberal/conservative trap -- arguing the same point again and again.

    And I keep falling for it. We just see this differently. Happy New Year!!

     
  • At 12/29/2005 10:49 AM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    I still try to see both sides, but just because I don't change my opinion doesn't mean I haven't seen it from the other prospective.

     
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