Some Misconceptions
With the advent of Ed Gillespie seemingly being the new RPV Chair, many are speculating that the RNC and national GOP folks want him here to ensure that Virginia does not turn blue in 2008; which many people seem to think is going to happen.
That simply is not true. While Virginia may be trending blue, it will not meet that threshold by 2008. Also don't forget; elections are about candidates and issue stances; especially in Virginia.
Lets revisit 1992 as the Old Dominion had just elected a democrat Chuck Robb to the Senate in 1988 and Doug Wilder to the governor's mansion in 1989. Virginia must have been "turning blue" then too huh? The dems even had serious control of the General Assembly as well. As it turns out, Virginia again delivered its electoral votes to George H.W. Bush; even with the large Perot vote holding his margins down.
I see the same thing developing right now here in Virginia. The Virginia electorate is very smart and typically votes for the person. That being said, it is still intristically conservative. The problem posed in Virginia is that when a democratic presidential candidate wants to win the state; they have to devote vast resources here (and unlike any other campaigns, presidential ones have limited money) to get us to even. In 2004 everyone thought Virginia might be in play, but it ended up being the usual GOP win b/c the dems can't afford to gamble here when money starts to get tight. They have a much better chance in states like Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida.
Even with the seemingly democratic turn in Northern Virginia (which I am not totally sold on), the downstate areas can still offset when the turnout is jacked up to 65-70%. I think if a dem in 2008 takes aim at Virginia; they will find themselves making a big mistake.
I agree that Virginia could become the next Ohio in the next few years, but we aren't there yet.
That simply is not true. While Virginia may be trending blue, it will not meet that threshold by 2008. Also don't forget; elections are about candidates and issue stances; especially in Virginia.
Lets revisit 1992 as the Old Dominion had just elected a democrat Chuck Robb to the Senate in 1988 and Doug Wilder to the governor's mansion in 1989. Virginia must have been "turning blue" then too huh? The dems even had serious control of the General Assembly as well. As it turns out, Virginia again delivered its electoral votes to George H.W. Bush; even with the large Perot vote holding his margins down.
I see the same thing developing right now here in Virginia. The Virginia electorate is very smart and typically votes for the person. That being said, it is still intristically conservative. The problem posed in Virginia is that when a democratic presidential candidate wants to win the state; they have to devote vast resources here (and unlike any other campaigns, presidential ones have limited money) to get us to even. In 2004 everyone thought Virginia might be in play, but it ended up being the usual GOP win b/c the dems can't afford to gamble here when money starts to get tight. They have a much better chance in states like Ohio, Wisconsin and Florida.
Even with the seemingly democratic turn in Northern Virginia (which I am not totally sold on), the downstate areas can still offset when the turnout is jacked up to 65-70%. I think if a dem in 2008 takes aim at Virginia; they will find themselves making a big mistake.
I agree that Virginia could become the next Ohio in the next few years, but we aren't there yet.
5 Comments:
At 11/15/2006 8:42 AM, Insider said…
Great post. Ever notice that whatever Party is in the White House loses the Governor's race in Virginia the following year?
At 11/15/2006 9:17 AM, James Atticus Bowden said…
Ohio became Ohio because elected Republicans raised taxes, were corrupt and couldn't spell p-r-i-n-c-i-p-l-e-s if you put a gun to their head.
More than enough voters in the Conservative First District voted Yes for Marriage and No for Allen to WIN the election for Allen. TWICE as many voters voted Yes for super-Conservative Cong. Jo Ann Davis and No for Allen than needed to WIN the election.
If we don't find good candidates to clean the Republican Caucus in the GA with enough challengers who can spell 'principles' in 07, then we will be Ohio and deservedly so.
At 11/15/2006 2:24 PM, GOPHokie said…
insider, thats very true; even though I dont know if theres any correlation there.
JAB, Ohio has been a battleground for a long time. Also, is GFA someone who needed to be primaried too?
At 11/17/2006 2:50 PM, James Atticus Bowden said…
Gophokie: George Allen didn't need to be primaried. Though, it wouldn't have been a bad thing if he was challenged as a rule, but I can't imagine who would have done that. I would have voted for Allen in the primary if there were one. Allen didn't raise our taxes.
At 11/17/2006 4:54 PM, GOPHokie said…
Well I didnt think Allen needed to be primaried either, but I couldnt quite understand your comments.
Thanks for clearing that up.
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