Elephant Ears

This blog is dedicated to the political happenings in the Valley and Southwest Virginia. As the the name implies, this blog will have posts based on what is heard by this elephant's (GOPer's) ears. It is also a great treat to get while at the county fair or a carnival.

Thursday, November 09, 2006

Direction at RPV

Our friend Mason Conservative has a scathing post on RPV Chair Kate Griffin. He points to continued losses in NOVA as well as a general loss of direction and leadership in the party as grounds for her removal.

On my preceding post, a few people have made arguements that she should be axed as well (although they may be democrats for all I know).

I have often wondered what effect these recent elections will have on Kate. I don't think she can be directly to blame for most of the losses (she didnt tell George to say macaca); but politicos usually want a scalp when they lose.

I was just wondering what everyone's feelings on this topic are; b/c this is important. Getting our party on the right track is key to keeping it red in 2008 and beyond. The RPV chair will be one of the main players in whether that happens or not.

UPDATE: I have heard a rumor that a majority of the district chairs will be opposing Kate for party chair (and this nothing more than a rumor at this point). I must admit these same rumors were present last year, so it may not be correct. James Atticus Bowen makes a great point that the State Central Committee and the other party leaders will make the decision on whether Kate stays or goes, not the grassroots people like us bloggers. That being the case, if this rumor is true I would say the situation gets much more complicated.

UPDATE2: Bearing Drift has some thoughts up here.


  • At 11/09/2006 8:45 AM, Blogger James Atticus Bowden said…

    I am a member of the SCC,RPV from the 1st District.

    Kate is a great, sincere, true Conservative.

    Her position is elected by the RPV, but in fact, is really appointed by the head honchos of Republican elected office. That was Jerry Kilgore and George Allen when she was elected by acclimation. (John Warner is only involved in Party affairs when he needs to patronize us).

    George will be around until Jan. Bill Bolling and Bob McDonnell are the highest state wide guys with clout. Ask them if they want Kate to go or not.

    Go to the Huffman Advance and see who is holding court in hospitality suites - like Tom Davis? Dunno if he is this year. But, he would like to pick the Chairman as his guy/gal.

    The decision to replace Kate or not will be made be a handful of elected politicians, not by the rank and file of the Party.

    I would discourage throwing rocks at Kate. Fuss at the guys at the top elected offices.

  • At 11/09/2006 9:02 AM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Thanks for the info James. I wondered how that worked.

  • At 11/09/2006 11:37 AM, Blogger James Atticus Bowden said…

    I learned like the village idiot falling off the turnip wagon. Funny story, I think, about my slow learning curve in real life politics at the state level. I don't want to write it out.

  • At 11/09/2006 12:33 PM, Blogger Bwana said…

    As one who sat "stacked to the rafters" in 1978, there is also an emotional aspect to removing this particular RPV chair-and that is the Obenshain legacy. To remove her will seem to some the same thing as spitting on the memory of Dick Obenshain.

    I suggest, however, that if KOG was actually trying to raise $$$ for a LtGov campaign while Allen was still in a fight, and long before campaigning for the 2009 races really kicks in (given that we have GA races in 2007 and a small national contest in 2008), then all but her most fanatical supporters will likely decide it is time to let her seek her own political fortunes and select a chairman whose primary goal is to elect GOP candidates.

  • At 11/09/2006 12:36 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Well bwana, I didnt see her on the campaign trail very much this past year; but there may be a host of reasons for that.

  • At 11/09/2006 2:18 PM, Blogger Bwana said…

    Yes, there are, and hopefully the main reason was that you were deep in library studying!

    I would add another considerations...that the position of party chairman is not one where it useful or reasonable for a person to serve a lengthy term of office.

    The state party chairman has to be designed to be one of two things: The real CEO of the party who makes things run, or a cheerleader who pumps up the troops while the Exec Director or other official makes things run.

    In either case, there will come a time when folks are tired of you and your techniques, and as a result you become less effective and a change is needed. There will come come a time when you just aren't getting the job done, and a change is needed.

    It seems to me that whatever her responsibilities, KOG has reached the point where whatever her intentions or perceptions or conceptions she is not getting the job done. It is time for a fresh face and a new approach.

  • At 11/09/2006 3:18 PM, Blogger James Atticus Bowden said…

    Let me put a finer edge on your update.

    The most powerful elected politicians (fomerly Jerry Kilgore and George Allen) PICK the Party Chair. Then, the majority of State Central vote as they are asked, or told, to do.

  • At 11/09/2006 3:42 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    It appears Mr. Bowden is out of the loop.

  • At 11/09/2006 4:06 PM, Blogger James Atticus Bowden said…

    Anon: Please enlighten us. How does it really work?

    I am out of many loops!

  • At 11/10/2006 12:45 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    It's nice to see that you abdicate your responsibilities as a State Central Committee rep and will do as a good soldier and vote as you're told, Mr. Bowden.

  • At 11/10/2006 1:23 AM, Blogger Jim Hoeft said…

    Don't be such a gutless troll. If you have something important to say about the party, then say it as who you are. Don't hide behind false disguises.

    I served on state central at one time, and party decisions are made with every consideration given to elected officials. I wouldn't say they pick the chair, as James did, but I do know their opinion is heard loud and clear.

    Let's see how this plays out.

  • At 11/10/2006 2:18 AM, Anonymous Fmr-VA-Hack said…

    Hopefully RPV's self-absorbed and media craving CHairman will do the same thing Ken Mehlman did and step down. The manjor difference is that KG was completely ineffective, overly excited by TV cameras and always waiting for others to tell her what she should and should not do while Mehlman helped create and execute one of the greatest grassroots machines the country has ever seen. This time, lets hope they go for someone with actual interest in party building will lead our party through this period. Now is no time for self promotion!

  • At 11/10/2006 10:55 AM, Blogger James Atticus Bowden said…

    Anon: Sorry that you didn't follow my thread. I came to the meeting ready to vote. It was over before it started. Tant pis.

  • At 11/10/2006 3:00 PM, Anonymous Randolph said…

    Bring back Pat McSweeney!

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