Elephant Ears

This blog is dedicated to the political happenings in the Valley and Southwest Virginia. As the the name implies, this blog will have posts based on what is heard by this elephant's (GOPer's) ears. It is also a great treat to get while at the county fair or a carnival.

Monday, August 22, 2005

My Opinion(s) on the Race for the 26th

It has come to my attention that I need to address the race for the 26th, with respect to my own personal opinions.

A. I think Matt Lohr will win. I think this because of the political makeup of the district and the closeness of both candidates on so many issues (implying there is no reason for people to crossover parties).
That is different from whether I support him or not. I think whoever runs against Hilary Clinton in 2006 for her senate seat will lose, but that doesn't mean I support Hilary.

B. I support Matt Lohr. Here is why...
Here is a list of the major issues in this race and the stances by each candidate.

Eminent Domain: both oppose this for public use
Education: both favor making it better through more funding
Gay Marriage: Lohr-ban with a constitutional amendment, Fulk- no amendment is needed b/c it is already illegal
Abortion: Lohr-opposes, Fulk-?
Environmental Conservation: both want to make environment cleaner
Transportation (I-81 notably): both want to make transportation better (Lohr-against StarSolutions, Fulk-?)
School lunches for Children with Deadbeat Parents: Lohr-against, Fulk-for
Gun Rights: both support the 2nd amendment
Taxes: Lohr-favors cutting taxes and opposed the 03 increase, Fulk- favors "budget reform"
Law Enforcement: both support increased resources for Sheriffs and State Police
Healthcare: both favor lowering the costs for the elderly
Farming: both are farmers and support farm tax breaks, etc to encourage more farming
Crime: both favor cutting crime
Drugs: both are opposed to legalizing drugs

After reading through all these issues I agree with Lohr 13 times and disagree with him once. I agree with Fulk 11 times, disagree twice and have an unknown for one.
That is why I support Matt Lohr. I agree with him on more things than Fulk, not to mention Lohr is the GOP standard bearer. As I said in an earlier post, if I agree with the GOP candidate, that's who I will support.
I have never said "You should support Matt Lohr because...". If you think we should have had the tax increase in 2003, or if you think gay marriage doesn't need an amendment, then Fulk is probably your man. I believe most people that want to make an educated decision will do so without someone else telling them how to vote. I don't usually try to convince people on who to vote for, unless they haven't made up their minds.

I don't believe Lowell Fulk is some type of demon, and I don't think I have ever said anything bad about him. Its not that I totally disagree with him, I just agree with Matt more.


  • At 8/22/2005 12:21 PM, Blogger republitarian said…

    I like you BD, but your wrong on several stances made by Mr. fulk. You are listening to Lore say what Lowell believes, but you need to talk to Mr.Fulk. Don't pull an Audrey Berkshire and start telling people lies based on what the Lore camp is telling you Mr. Fulk believes. His phone number is 896-1323. He'll be more than happy to talk with you.

  • At 8/22/2005 1:06 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    What stances am I wrong about? I don't know Fulk's stance on abortion or StarSolutions, but I don't think I am wrong about anything I put up. I even said Fulk was right about his vote for the lunch charges. If there is something I'm wrong about, let me know so I can correct it.
    By the way, who is BD? Is that your nickname for me or do think thats my intials?

  • At 8/22/2005 2:29 PM, Blogger republitarian said…

    Do you want me to post your name?

    Ask Lowell about abortion and star solutions. He can speak for himself. Btw, He already knows who you are too.

    The difference between Lowell and Matt is.... Lowell does things that are conservative and Matt just talks about it.

  • At 8/22/2005 2:40 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Are my intials BD? Just answer me that question.

  • At 8/22/2005 2:49 PM, Blogger republitarian said…


  • At 8/22/2005 3:01 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    First off, this is really my first year doing a lot with the party, so I don't know about the corruption in the party. I hear people like you talk about it on the blogs, but I persoanlly don't know what it is. The only things that Lohr has done that are bad that I know about are missing school board meetings because of his speaking schedule and voting for the deadbeat parents lunch thing.
    I honestly don't know all the stuff you are talking about. Maybe once I'm involved for a while longer I will find out, but as of right now, I don't know about it.

  • At 8/22/2005 3:03 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    If you would tell me if my intials are BD, then we could establish an understanding of what each of us knows.

  • At 8/22/2005 3:10 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Thanks for answering my question Myron.

  • At 8/22/2005 9:16 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    "...REGARDING THE CORRUPTION IN THE LOCAL GOP AND THE LIES THAT HAVE ALREADY COME FROM THE CAMPAIGN." Those are strong words where you don't have to be accountable! So republitarian back it up. What corruption? What lies? Any different than claiming Matt stopped kids from having a lunch? I'm not a politician and I'm not going to spread false lies. Republitarian for the sake of what, if any credibility you have tell us and show us this "corruption". You have proven what most of us know, you are a lap dog of Fulk and the Democratic party.

  • At 8/23/2005 12:35 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    lap dog? you're really worried and it's showing. false lies? double negative meaning the truth. republitarian will have no trouble backing it up, and you'll be very sorry you made this particular challenge. the corruption has been there for a long time and is becoming all the more evident to the general public. the fact that someone like fulk felt compelled to run at all, much less as a minority party candidate should tell you volumns. you should have cultivated him. unlike lohr he hasn't been groomed by anybody. republitarian is a threat. you really should be worried. credibility? he verifies everything. his page is stark and simple, his message simple, his anger real and justified. the stories about kids being denied food and humiliated haven't started yet, but they're coming. and the lohr/obenshain lies are going to be exposed. the republitarian hates lies and unGodliness and I for one appreciate what he's doing. your pathetic attempt to divert attention away from your boys by attacking the republitarian's honesty is a major screw-up. he is rapidly becoming a local hero.
    you want examples of local party corruption? it'll be here, only now it won't just be coming from a local dairy farmer.
    oh, by the way anon, the republitarian isn't so dumb as to be baited out of his information by the likes of you. and really you should be worried about who is feeding him information from within your organization...... a true sign that a corrupt machine is crumbling.......

  • At 8/23/2005 12:54 AM, Anonymous filbert d said…


  • At 8/23/2005 1:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    brandon is it? why don't you take republitarian's offer of calling fulk and asking him? afraid of the truth? how many blogger list someone's phone number? kind of weird. did you have permission?

  • At 8/23/2005 7:10 AM, Blogger republitarian said…

    Well , Lowell is like I am.... he'll talk to anyone, anytime. Furthermore, it's in the phone book, public information. It would be different if it wasn't listed.


    How 'bout Mark O. voting to reappoint Judge McGrath when McGrath had numerous complaints and a lawsuit against him. Guess who was defending McGrath along with Todd Gilbert against that lawsuit ....that's right Mark O. What about a lawsuit filed by a local constituent against the local sheriffs' dept., guess who represented a constitutionally elected officer against a constituent........ that's right Mark O.. Anyone can look these things up for themselves, it's all public record.

    10 years ago we had a prostitution ring covered up. 5 pillars of our community were called to testify, all had their subpeanas quashed. That never happens....except in "our town." They were all Elks. Mmmmm...

    We're not talking little league stuff here.

  • At 8/23/2005 9:42 AM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Well folks, it sounds like Republitarian has his facts straight, so I had to agree with him on the attendance record of Lohr.
    In any case, I don't understand the contention that all these lies are being spread by Obenshain and Lohr. Matt missed meetings and also has a very full speaking schedule in the past. He also made a bad vote on a lunch policy. He also gave money to his opponent 2 years ago. If I missed something on ur site Myron, please remind me.
    I don't understand how those things are linked to lies.
    Matt admits he gave money to Fulk. He admits has has missed meetings and he admits he has a full speaking schedule. He thinks that the lunch vote was good (I am basing my opinion of it being bad on the fact that Fulk said children were denied meals b/c of it).
    Tell me where the lies are. Tell me where the unfitness for his job is.
    I never said Lohr was the perfect candidate, but he certainly isn't the scumbag criminal that you guys make him out to be.
    Is there more stuff coming that we don't know about yet?

  • At 8/23/2005 10:59 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Scumbag criminal? Where was that ever said?
    When one doesn't show up for work, one doesn't keep job.
    I don't know what lies republitarian may be talking about, but everything Lohr is accusing Fulk of is dishonest as $%&*. You were at the fair, why wouldn't Lohr agree to only tell the truth in the campaign? You saw the look on his face. So did all of us in attendance. Why won't Lohr agree to tell the truth?

  • At 8/23/2005 3:18 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    No comment?

  • At 8/23/2005 3:39 PM, Blogger republitarian said…

    They're coming BD. The lies about Lowell are coming and I will pre-empt every last one of them. It is good to see you're coming around.

    Here are the lies so far....

    The Matt Lore was at a campaign event lie?
    The children stand in line for only 30 seconds lie.
    The no child was ever denied a meal lie.
    The Lowell Fulk is a different man lie.
    The Lowell Fulk supports partial birth abortion lie.
    The republitarian and Dave distort facts lie.

    Call Lowell, ask him. What are you afraid of?

  • At 8/23/2005 3:39 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Sorry, I have been class and doing other things all day.
    Republitarian has called Lohr a liar, and he has said the party is corrupt. What would you characterize that as anon?
    What is Lohr accusing Fulk of? Being a democrat? Supporting John Kerry for president? Oppposing the gay marriage amendment?
    Lowell Fulk is more than welcome to do any of those things, he should follow what he believes, but Matt Lohr pointing them out is not a crime. Just like its not a crime for Republitarian to point out that Lohr has missed "x" number of meetings on the school board and other things.
    As to Lohr not agreeing to tell the truth, I think was a dumb move on his part.

  • At 8/23/2005 3:44 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    Ill agree with the first one, (he was not at both places so one or the other was wrong). Maybe none of Matt's constituents ever told him the lunch thing was a problem. I think t was a bad move if in fact children were denied meals, but I don't know for sure, after all I'm not in school anymore and I don't have any kids or anything to know from.
    Matt Lohr's opinion must be that Fulk is a different man, regardless of whether he is, Matt must think so or he woulnd't have run against him.
    I've never heard them accuse Fulk of supporting partial-birth abortion so I dunno there.
    As to you guys distorting the facts, I don't see where you have distorted anything.
    Just so I have a heads up, what lies are coming about Fulk from the Lohr campaign?

  • At 8/23/2005 4:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Stop helping Matt's people formulate arguments.

  • At 8/23/2005 4:34 PM, Anonymous saywhat? said…

    You write: "Matt Lohr's opinion must be that Fulk is a different man, regardless of whether he is, Matt must think so or he woulnd't have run against him."

    Please. Matt is running because Mark asked him to. You take Matt at every word he says, and you shouldn't because he's a politican who's been advised to demonize his opponent. Look at Not Larry Sabato today. Demonizing Lowell -- which attaching him to John Kerry and saying he's changed is tantamount to among some in the Valley -- might be the only way Matt wins. Has he done it? Yes. Will he keep doing it? Sure, if Mark tells him to. Does this mean he believes it? Not necessarily.

  • At 8/23/2005 4:44 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    I know he ran b/c Mark wanted him to, but I support Matt Lohr, so i wouldn't run against him if Mark asked me to do it. He still must not agree with Fulk, or he really didn't like Weatherholtz and thought he could do better but wouldn't challenge him.
    It kind of hard to call someone's opinion a lie. Democrats suck. Thats my opinion. You may not like that, but that doesn't make it a lie.

  • At 8/23/2005 4:58 PM, Anonymous saywhat?? said…

    I think you miss my point there, which is just because Matt (or any other candidate) says something doesn't mean he believes it. He's in campaign mode. It's all about winning, not truth telling.

  • At 8/23/2005 6:51 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    I agree with ya there.
    You don't know if they believe half of what politicians tell you in person, much less what their website or ads say.

  • At 8/23/2005 9:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    See gophokie, that is what is so sad. Fulk TELLS THE TRUTH. But because he's a democrat, and democrats suck, you don't like fulk. Even though Lohr can't seem to do the job he sought and makes up stories about someone who (until he wanted the position) he called a friend, you think that that's o.k. You don't see it, won't call to ask him (fulk), and when it is pointed out to you that Lohr isn't what he says, you say that that's o.k. because that's what politicians do....... Let me ask you this, would you rather be lied to by a republican or be told the truth by a sucky old democrat? Does that make it better somehow?

  • At 8/23/2005 9:49 PM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    You guys even attack me when I agree with you.
    I can't win.
    Ok, Matt Lohr is a liar, a loser and Lowell Fulk will eat his lunch on election day.
    Is that good enough for ya?

  • At 8/23/2005 11:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    No Hokie,
    Nobody is trying to beat you up. You care, which is wonderful.
    No one is attacking you. Just disagreeing with you. What you can't seem to admit is that Fulk is the better person for this job. The really sad thing is that if everyone votes only by party, and without looking at truth and quality, the party candidate might win. Just because of party.
    What the people who are leaking the information from the Lohr campaign are confirming is that voters are willing to listen to reason and truth and good ideas, not just party spin.
    There is no sin in voting a split ticket. Indeed there is much good about the practice. It forces politicians to work together. For the people........

  • At 8/24/2005 7:13 AM, Blogger republitarian said…

    Lowell will only eat his lunch if he hasn't charged too much. Then he will only get a bread and milk product.

  • At 8/24/2005 7:13 AM, Anonymous saywhat?? said…

    To Anon 12:53:

    From your lips to God's ears to the ballot box, my friend. We love you, GOPHokie, we just think you're wrong. Fulk is the better candidate for ALL of us, even Republicans.

  • At 8/24/2005 10:31 AM, Blogger GOPHokie said…

    I know thats what you think, but you guys make me answer the same question 15 times.
    I think you are missing what I'm saying about being a straight ticket voter.
    Regardless of whether you guys like it, most people do it. That being the case, Lohr needs to be a REPUBLICAN. Talk about it, brag about it, and show his opponent as a democrat.
    As for me, I told you why I support Matt. I agree with him on the issues too, not just because he a GOPer. I think Fulk is an OK guy and even is OK on most of the issues, just not all of them.


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